the cities with the heist proportion of crime are also the city that is have the strictest gun control. explain that? >> because you have saturdays that lack gun control and people engaging in purchases and criminals taking advantage of it. >> charles, would universal background checks in any way prevent any of what we have soon so far? >> i think it is extremely unlikely. owe i am going to upset your assumptions. >> i am a guest. >> the only way you are going to make a difference is to do what australia did. you take away the existing guns. that is what tucker is talking about. that would never happen. >> it's not going to happen here. australia had 7 percent had guns. here the number is somewhere around 50 percent of households. we have a tradition and we have a second amendment you can't do it. but the fact is if you are thinking it will make a difference by some what slowing the increase number of guns there are 300 billion floating around in the country today. they are going to remain untouched because we have a second amendment. it will take 100 years to degrade that stockpile. t